Compare these rounds in the charts below. The nosler hammers for a longggg way. Accuracy had also been a little better with slightly lighter loads, so the third range session used propellant charges approximately matching Nosler’s listed maximum velocities. * In order to maintain bullet comparability, all data is based on current Nosler Factory Ammunition loadings for respective calibers. Partitions. A popular computer recoil program calculated the final loads tested at 34.4 ft.-lbs. Unfortunately, it couldn’t be seated anywhere near the lands and still fit in the magazine—a situation I’ve encountered before with that bullet—and the one group I fired with it measured more than 4". 30 NOSLER VS. 300 WIN MAG. Nosler’s load data included 150-, 160-, 168- and 175-gr. My friend bought the 28 Nosler in the Liberty and he likes how it shoots. All I hunt is elk so I prefer the 30 just for the larger bullets. The Ultimate Guide to Tanning Wild Game Pelts and Hides. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. There’s nothing as discouraging as a new hunting rifle in the safe with no ammunition to shoot. I'm looking to shoot 800yds maybe push it to 900yds. It also recoils more than the .26 Nosler, something I definitely noticed during the second range session when I sighted-in a new scope on my .26, also a Patriot, using 140-gr. Such skepticism is apparently a normal reaction in the Internet age, when shooters all over the world can anonymously demonstrate their affected sophistication. What they did bring is credible support. The three Nosler bullets all produced three-shot groups between 0.56" and 0.70" at 100 yds, with the smallest groups from 160-gr. Federal Premium Sets Record Straight On Ammunition Shortage, Review: T/C Performance Center Long Range Rifle, Gemtech Integra 15-22 Suppressed Upper Receiver, © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. The 30 Nosler shares the same overall cartridge length (3.340") as the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler which allows it to be chambered in standard-length action firearms. load to recoil the least, but it used the lightest propellant charge and, unlike the 160-gr. Hunting in Colorado at 8-9kft my 28 has 2100fps and 2000ft/lbs at 1000yards. But rifles, cases, propellants and bullets have changed considerably since then, and the .28 Nosler combines all those in a cartridge capable of fitting into a variety of bolt-actions. In 2016 the .30 Nosler was announced, and the latest cartridge to join the Nosler line is the .33 Nosler. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the world’s big game—with real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. Firing a 210 gr. The other common justification for three-shot groups is, “I almost never shoot more than three shots at any big-game animal,” but this has nothing to do with determining a rifle’s consistent level of accuracy. When shot from an 8 lb rifle, the 28 Nosler creates 33 foot-pounds of recoil. Either way, Nosler’s parent case seems bound to sire an entire family of useful new cartridges. Survival. Nosler's stated goal in the 27 Nosler is to produce a more capable long-range hunting cartridge. Partitions, and another brand of 168-gr. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. Don't think of the 28 nosler as some new thing... just think of it as what it is: Nosler's version of a 7RUM. What they did bring is credible support. 28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Winchester Ultra Mag. from the muzzle of a 26" test barrel. Remington introduced the RUM series (hugely popular) and then failed to support them with different types of ammo and reloading brass. Out to 400 yds. D. Drtfarmer Private. Although some projectiles intrude well into the .28 Nosler’s case, its capacity, 97.7 grs. The 30 Nosler also headspaces off the shoulder, improving alignment with the bore. by John Barsness - This model’s standard-length action accommodates the company’s new .28 Nosler cartridge’s 3.340" overall length (l.). The obvious question after the .26 Nosler appeared in 2013 was: “What will the company neck it to next?” The best guesses were a 7 mm or a .30-cal., and the former turned out to be right. I really couldnt see a benefit over the 28 from the 27 nosler? And this is exactly what happened in this rifle, and in fact the dozen or so three-shot groups I fired all measured under an inch, sometimes approaching the magic half-inch. No RL-33 could be found locally, but the other propellants did very well. HUGE differences. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Not to say the Nosler isn’t any good but just an overall feeling of liking Weatherby more. Mag. (I also suspect the AccuBond Long Range would probably shoot more accurately after some fiddling with seating depth, a common tweak for secant-ogive bullets. Like many shooting enthusiasts, the Nosler family has always dreamed of introducing a new rifle cartridge to the industry and in 2014, that finally happened with the arrival of the 26 Nosler®. Given most .30 Nosler loads with decent bullets already end up in the H1000 or Retumbo burn rates, making the case bigger doesn't really appeal to me. Though I think I saw some 30 Nosler ammo for about the same price as the brass = fireformed brass when you do start reloading. Jan 2, 2020 #1 About to purchase a new hunting rifle, and I am looking for pros/cons between the two calibers. I did some bench comparisons of the two. Like the .26, the .28 Nosler also fits in a .30-’06 Sprg.-length magazine, providing a couple of advantages. Minuteman. The 30 Nosler shoulder is.051" farther back than the 28 Nosler, so the 28 actually has more capacity than the 30. Both rifles are zeroed at 200-yard zero. #1. AccuBond Long Range bullets. Mag. The 28 Nosler is running over 100gr of water. Here I should comment on the difference between the three-shot groups most hunters shoot today, and the five-shot groups required by the American Rifleman testing protocol. A more efficient round, offering the same performance as large magnums, but in a shorter cartridge. Since the case mouths of Nosler brass come already chamfered, no prepping was done except to run each neck over the expander ball in the sizing die. AccuBond® Long Range bullet at 3,000 fps with over 4,000 ft.-lbs. All the propellants that Nosler’s data indicated should shoot most accurately were also on hand except for Alliant RL-33, since all but a few spoonfuls of my supply had been shot up testing the .26 Nosler. Bolt Action Rifles. Nosler M48 rifles are only built to order; see the Nosler website (www.nosler.com) for details. Necking the .26 to 7 mm will increase barrel life somewhat, and provide the same high-performance zip with heavier bullets. (To be fair, Nosler’s data lists muzzle velocities up to 3200 f.p.s. The 30 Nosler shoulder is .051" farther back than the 28 Nosler, so the 28 actually has more capacity than the 30. load with Norma 217, muzzle velocity wasn’t exceptionally high. May 29, 2017. Compare these rounds in the charts below. FWIW you can now get 28 Nosler brass from a handful of websites at about $2.75-3 a piece but 30 Nosler seems to be out of stock. The powders that would take advantage of the capacity are 50BMG powders that aren't very good. of water, is more than generous enough to allow the handloader to safely reach respectable velocities. The Great Ammo Shortage of 2020: When Will It End? the 160 shoots a little flatter than the 175 ABLR and doesn’t drift significantly more in the wind. They worked fine on the .28 as well. When filled to the brim, the .28 Nosler case holds 100.7 grains of water versus 99.6 grains for 7mm STW cases made by Remington and 100.2 grains for those from Federal. Both rifles are zeroed at 200-yard zero. I didn’t test the Patriot at ranges beyond 100 yds., because in July at a joint writer tour hosted by Nosler and Leupold, I spent a large part of one day at a very long shooting range in central Oregon. Partitions and, The .28 Nosler does exhibit more recoil than most 7 mm magnums, about like a smaller .30-cal. Just as the 7mm STW is a necked-up version of the 6.5 STW, so it goes with the .28 Nosler and the .26 Nosler. The .26 Nosler is pushing the same bullet out of my custom rifle on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Lilga barrel at 3,650 feet per second. Dec 7, 2019 12 1. Just starting to get some feedback. The Contestants. handloads at around 3300 f.p.s. At 400 yards, the 6.5 Creedmoor has 18.8 inches of drop and still packs 1,478 foot pounds of energy. One customer who contacted Nosler even said his still shot well after 1,600. Partitions and Norma 217 ran more than 3400 f.p.s.! I know it is an updated 270, but 7mm bullets are much better BC and can shoot up to 195 gr with the 28 vs … When filled to the brim, the .28 Nosler case holds 100.7 grains of water versus 99.6 grains for 7mm STW cases made by Remington and 100.2 grains for those from Federal. Since then, the 26 Nosler® has achieved such renowned success that adding another member to the cartridge family became an obvious decision. They might be an unstylish accessorizing choice when connecting $3,000 of scope and rifle, but through the decades, Weaver’s “old uglies” have performed perfectly on many of my rifles, including a rather light .416 Rem. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. This may surprise some shooters but didn’t surprise me, as 6.5 mm 140-gr. One obvious reason for the .28 Nosler would be the success of the .26 Nosler (December 2014, p. 46). Nosler Ballistic Tip (among the heavier-jacketed boattails, so a good choice in 7 mm magnums), 160-gr. They found the .26 did what Nosler claimed, shooting high-ballistic-coefficient 6.5 mm bullets accurately at very high velocities, making hitting at longer range easier due to less bullet drop and wind drift. As with Double Tap Ammo, the 26 nosler ammo by Double Tap beats Nosler’s by 2.000fps in both the 129 accubonds and the 140 long range accubonds ….3600fps and 3400fps.also for the Nosler 28 ammo. But Nightforce scopes have proven so tough and reliable that an exception was made, and the scope worked perfectly throughout my testing. In the meantime, the .28 provides plenty of big-game performance in a reasonably packable package—and also a rebore possibility for .26 Nosler owners who eventually shoot out their rifles’ barrels. Though I think I saw some 30 Nosler ammo for about the same price as the brass = fireformed brass when you do start reloading. The PRC has 1950fps and 1200ft/lbs at 1000yds. The .28 Nosler is offered in the M48 Custom Long Range (2015 MSRP $5830), Patriot (2015 MSRP $2895) and Heritage (2015 MSRP $1895) bolt action repeating rifles. Mag. In the subsequent years, Nosler would release the .28 Nosler (7mm bore diameter), and the .30 Nosler; these two are popular as all-around hunting choices. Accuracy is excellent with both. @tom reported 3100 fps with 93 … Yeah, we can use even heavier bullets in .30s, but relatively few shooters are recoil-resistant enough to accurately shoot bullets over 200 grs. Explore this site to compare these rounds and many others. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. The powders that would take advantage of the capacity are 50BMG powders that aren't very good. magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. 28 nosler vs 300 prc. The 26 Nosler vs .270 Winchester vs 7mm Updated Posted on January 7, 2015 by Ed Hale There are those that are proponents of the 6.5mm Cartridges over the .270 WInchester. But many of us insist on both the accuracy and the pickup. The 30 Nosler uses exactly the same parent case (.404 Jeffery) as the 26 and 28 Noslers, so it wouldn’t be astonishing to discover the 30 had been part of the plan from the beginning. Remington introduced the RUM series (hugely popular) and then failed to support them with different types of ammo and reloading brass. The smart money would be on .30 caliber, but .338 might be a possibility. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the worlds big gamewith real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. In 2014 Nosler introduced the flat-shooting .26 Nosler, following it up in 2015 with the .28 Nosler (7mm) that was based on the .26 case but necked accordingly. Just starting to get some feedback. I would imagine Double Tap is doing their development as I text this on the 30 Nosler and the 33 Nosler, since they are both hot off the press. The 30 Nosler eclipses the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces of the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like that of the 300 WSM and its in the same standard length action of a 300 W… ADG = 101 gr. with the Nightforce, also dampening recoil. What’s next for Nosler’s case? In fact, the muzzle velocity with 160-gr. Various statisticians have predicted how much larger five-shot groups will average over three-shot groups, but their answers have varied. With that being said, 7mag, 30-06 and 300 win mag are just as effective with a lot less recoil. Partitions are among the most accurate in my .26 Nosler, and have also shot very well in hundreds of other rifles. Now I will be the odd man out that has never seen a huge difference in case design as far as performance. At the other end, any action with a somewhat longer magazine, such as a Remington Model 700, provides leeway for “chasing the lands” as the chamber throat erodes—if you’re the kind of shooter who wants to torch off a .28 Nosler often enough to significantly lengthen the throat. Aside from 175-gr. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … There also happened to be a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope in the safe, ready for testing, but the only 30-mm rings in my rather large collection that combined well with the short-tubed SHV were Weaver Tip-Offs. Magnum action vs. standard action. Norma = 95 gr. Maybe better ES yes. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester … At 100 rounds my 28s throat moved .017" and the 30 has moved zero. However, long-range hunters aren’t all that concerned about flat trajectory, since they’ll usually be twisting the elevation turret at longer ranges, and at 500 yds.the 175 starts to drift less. A close cousin of the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler is a larger, more powerful round. If you don’t reload I would honestly go with a 300win mag and buy the Berger 215 factory … for the 150-gr., 37.1 for the 160 and 30.6 for the 175, numbers confirmed by my shoulder. I got a reamer made up to use 28 Nosler brass necked up to 30 (no turn). In fact, the muzzle velocity with 160-gr. ABLR to 3125 f.p.s. @tom reported 3100 fps with 93 grains of rl33 and a 225 eldm in a 26" barrel. The 28 Nosler. The propellant capacity (and hence velocity potential) of the .28 Nosler is very close to that of the 7 mm STW (May 2013, p. 84), but not all actions can handle the STW, while the .28 will work in any action with a magazine long enough for the 7 mm Rem. One more downside of the 28 Nosler is the scarcity of factory ammunition. 28 nosler and 280AI are two completely different animals. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. Nosler ABLR bullet is 1.541" long. with the 175, but in this rifle lower velocity definitely resulted in finer accuracy.). Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. of energy, the 30 Nosler outperforms such touted rounds as the 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. The .28 Nosler does exhibit more recoil than most 7 mm magnums, about like a smaller .30-cal. Introducing the new 30 Nosler cartridge by popular demand. As a side note, it’s normally not a good idea to mount an untested scope on a new rifle, because if anomalies occur it’s hard to tell whether the scope or rifle is at fault. Given the same 150-grain AccuBond bullet only drops 28-inches at 500 yards, it’s safe to say they might have done so with an extraordinary flat-shooting option. Given most .30 Nosler loads with decent bullets already end up in the H1000 or Retumbo burn rates, making the case bigger doesn't really appeal to me. Ron Spomer provides an in-depth look at Nosler's 7mm rifle cartridge, the 28 Nosler. And the dimensions of the Nosler case also allow any 7 mm Rem. Several of us got to shoot .28s with ABLR bullets out to 1,000-plus yds., and were very impressed, both in how it minimized wind drift and how hard it whacked steel way out there. at high muzzle velocities. ABLRs, the bullets I tried included the 150-gr. It actually produces twice the recoil as the smaller 6.5 Creedmoor (see comparison below). Just as the 7mm STW is a necked-up version of the 6.5 STW, so it goes with the .28 Nosler and the .26 Nosler. Dec 7, 2019 12 1. Since Nosler factory ammunition wasn’t then available, handloads would have to do. The .26 Nosler is pushing the same bullet out of my custom rifle on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Lilga barrel at 3,650 feet per second. All four of Nosler's Cartridges, the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, 30 Nosler, and 33 Nosler, are based on … It also recoils more than the .26 Nosler, something I definitely noticed during the second range session when I sighted-in a new scope on my .26, also a, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program. Get the American Rifleman Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. magnums using bullets of similar weight. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … In 2017, Nosler announced the largest of the family: the .33 Nosler. At the other end, any action with a somewhat longer magazine, such as a Remington Model 700, provides leeway for “chasing the lands” as the chamber throat erodes—if you’re the kind of shooter who wants to torch off a .28 Nosler often enough to significantly lengthen the throat. The .28-cal., 175-gr. Both are more than enough for elk and I do not think you would ever tell a difference in on game performance. The 280AI is going to run around 68gr of water. This can be true, but in reality five-shot groups from any rifle almost always average larger than three-shot groups, even a benchrest rifle capable of shooting groups only slightly larger than bullet diameter. And the dimensions of the Nosler case also allow any 7 mm Rem. Most hunters believe (because they’ve been told so time and time again) that groups from sporter-weight barrels open up after three rounds, because the barrel starts to warp from accumulated heat. target bullets with a much longer ogive than the Nosler Custom Competition used in Nosler’s testing. The PRC has 1950fps and 1200ft/lbs at 1000yds. The Nosler Patriot features the company’s proprietary Model 48 action, a Pac-Nor barrel and a pillar-bedded, aramid-fiber stock. to be rechambered. The 30 Nosler shares the same overall cartridge length (3.340") as the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler which allows it to be chambered in standard-length action firearms. Nosler sent its, None of the loads showed the slightest hint of excessive pressure, and a second range session with maximum listed powder charges indicated this rifle might have a little tighter barrel than the one used in Nosler’s tests, as velocities ran a little higher. 28 nosler vs 300 prc. Bertram = 100 gr. Designed with a maximum COAL of 3.340 inches, the .308-caliber, rebated-rim centerfire rifle cartridge has a case capacity of 88 grains. Both cases were new unfired. The 30 I think just came out not to long ago compared to the 26. Minuteman. None of the loads showed the slightest hint of excessive pressure, and a second range session with maximum listed powder charges indicated this rifle might have a little tighter barrel than the one used in Nosler’s tests, as velocities ran a little higher. See how they compare in the charts below. The Contestants. The old 7mm Rem. to be rechambered. 30 Nosler: Nosler = 99 gr. vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM. The rifle weighed 9 lbs., 4 ozs. Most big-game animals don’t require half-inch groups at 100 yds., any more than a three-quarter-ton pickup with eight-ply off-road tires is required to haul a whitetail buck. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. It also turns out that barrels on .26 Nosler rifles last longer than some skeptics predicted, most shooting accurately for at least 1,000 rounds. Bolt Action Rifles. Meanwhile, some of us retain a little innate curiosity. Despite predictions from such sophisticates, enough hunters bought .26s to cause a year-long shortage in Nosler 6.5 mm bullets. To my mind, the Nosler offerings didn't add anything new or different in terms of ballistics to the already saturated 28, 30 & 33 calibers. Reduced powder mass yields less recoil than other magnum cartridges when shooting the same bullet to the same velocity. To my mind, the Nosler offerings didn't add anything new or different in terms of ballistics to the already saturated 28, 30 & 33 calibers. magnum such as the .300 WSM. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. By Ron Spomer. for hunting deer and elk, but they are few except if you create a new Cartridge like the 26 Nosler. Thread starter Drtfarmer; Start date Jan 2, 2020; Forums. Add all these factors together, and the 28 Nosler pushes 7 mm bullets capable of taking 99 percent of the world’s big game at very high velocities, with small but real long-range advantages in both trajectory and wind drift compared to .30-cal. 30 Nosler vs. 300 Win Mag. I have both, the 30 is going to have much better barrel life. Having bought a 28 nosler a few months ago along with a 6.5 prc, I was reading the new hodgdon manual and read about the 27 nosler. Over the last hundred years, the 30 caliber category has gotten crowded. I'm looking at Kimber Hunter 280AI 24" Savage 110 Long Range Hunter 280AI 26" Browning XBolt Western Hunter 28Nosler 26" Nosler Liberty 48 28 Nosler 26" FWIW you can now get 28 Nosler brass from a handful of websites at about $2.75-3 a piece but 30 Nosler seems to be out of stock. Latest. I'm trying to decide between 280AI or 28 Nosler. None of these advantages by themselves are new, in fact Remington made similar claims when introducing the 7 mm Rem. The 28 nosler not too far behind. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. At 400 yards, the 6.5 Creedmoor has 18.8 inches of drop and still packs 1,478 foot pounds of energy. But with a firm grip and a PAST recoil pad strapped to my shoulder the .28’s comeback wasn’t uncomfortable, even when leaning into the rifle behind a benchrest. November 25, 2019. magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. Nosler’s accuracy guarantees are for three-shot groups at 100 yds, and they’ll average about two-thirds the size as the five-shot averages listed in the range test data. or .300 Win. The nosler hammers for a longggg way. If you don’t reload I would honestly go with a 300win mag and buy the Berger 215 factory … This is due to the laws of chance, even if we wait five minutes between shots to allow our barrel to cool—which is often wasted waiting. Of course, as soon as Nosler announced the .28 many asked, “Why bother?” since the list of 7 mm big-game rounds compares to the Fortune 500. Most can handle even heavy 7 mm magnum recoil, however, even though the kick of any 7 mm can hardly be called heavy. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to:EmediaRifleman@nrahq.org For questions/comments about American Rifleman magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Rifleman, visit nramediakit.com for more information. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. magnum such as the .300 WSM. Properly stress-relieved, sporter-weight barrels (not all are) will keep punching them in there, even when too hot to touch. Unfortunately, continuing high demand for .26 Noslers (and other Nosler products and projects) slowed the availability of the .28 Nosler. D. Drtfarmer Private. With the best magnum performance in a standard action, the 30 Nosler was introduced as a more evolved cartridge option. Ballistics will go to the 28 my a slim margin, killing power to the 30. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. It might seem odd for the 175-gr. Aside from the rifle and bullets, part of the accuracy was no doubt due to case uniformity. 30 caliber. The comparitively low price of the Patriot does not mean it’s an inferior rifle, since it uses the same Model 48 action and Pac-Nor barrel as other Nosler rifles, but unfortunately no factory ammunition was yet available, much less .28 Nosler cases or loading data. Factory loads, which became available after the author conducted his testing, push the 175-gr. Nosler = 95 gr. 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